"[Off-Topic] @Zahelu
Thanks mate!
I just threw that post as half joke. I before kept people speaking klingon and stuff likethat little bit overdoing fans, but i understand now how it feels to be real fan of movie. I'll try to learn it when i got free time, luckily i dont have ANY foreign languages in school period. You know how great it is to learn multiple languages same time? ;)
Somehow i find Na'vi bit more easy than swedish somehow. Particularly on grammar, but words are pain for my. Especially pronouncing when i have to learn through english. [/Off-Topic]

As i said earlier, we can't ban tobacco from movies if we don't ban the whole thing. It would be incoherent and that's one of the most important guideline what people should follow. There are drugs for example in movies, but that isn't causing thunderstorm?

It is everyones choice. Many of my friends smoke and i've seen my grandfather smoking since i first saw him. Ok, he is in bad condition because of that and no wonder. Even my neughbour smokes. Yes, i see smoking a lot, but that just strengthens my negativity towards tobacco.
Yes, i don't smoke and i will not start to. More i see it, more it disgusts me .

Tobacco should be put away from sight for example in stores etc. but not in movies. Movies are art, storys about life etc. You cannot ban it from there as long as it is legal.
I understand your concern about tobacco, but it isn't that simply alltimes in our world. "

"Read my text again. I didn't say tobacco is art or anything similar. Is it always ad if some random guy walks down road while smoking?"

"Sadly u need sponsors to make a movie, sadly money does make the world go round,
stop focusing on the negative guys, just enjoy the movie and share the happy feelings"

"sarcasm is the worlds biggest downfall=]"

"and i also want to say that totally hiding our kids from tobacco is definatly not working in terms of making them not use it. im not trying to say that we should let our kids experiment. but come on, there are countless commercials about the risks of smoking tobacco, hell they even say on the damn box that smoking causes cancer. but to shun tobacco from our kids is the wrong way to do it. when you dont educate kids about it it creates curiosity, which in other words leads kids into trying it. if you want kids to stop smoking fully educate them about it, dont just hid it from them. what kid doesnt want to do things because there parent didnt want them to, give them the facts."

" Would you get into an airplane if you knew that half a million people died in plane crashes every year? What would you say about flying?"

"Would you fly, though, if you knew that one thousand people a day were killed in aircraft accidents? Have you taken a look at any of the facts about advertising to kids and smoking? If you are truly interested, go to http://www.smokefreemovies.ucsf.edu/"

"probably not, but you cant honestly say that someone doesnt know the risks of smoking. my friend is a kinder garden teacher and their teaching about how bad it is"

"I don't think it had anything to do with the tobacco industry. There was exactly one cigarette smoked in the entire movie. I believe it was done as part of the introduction to her character. There's likely no smoking allowed in the science labs, and especially not in the.. uh, linking chambers? (I've only seen it once, forgive me.) But Grace Augustine gets Whatever the Hell She Wants Whenever the Hell She Wants it! She was the most respected and feared non-military person on the base. She deserves a smoke for that."

"Did James Cameron accept money from the tobacco industry in order to have Sigourney Weaver smoke in his movie? It is pathetic to see gratuitous smoking in movies. I am disappointed in James and Sigourney. This has got to stop."

"Why are so many people compaining over a damn cigarette? 00r is right, it's just a movie! Whoever is gullible enough to copy everything they see in a movie deserves to suffer the consequences! Don't blame the filmakers!"

"One thing I liked about Avatar was its Authentic Script. Grace asking for a Cigarette after going off line from her Avatar made that scene more realistic. It is interesting to see no one complaining about all the profanity that was in Avatar. Like the profanity, Grace asking for the cigarette made the dialog in the movie more realistic and made Avatar more Authentic."

"Asking for a beer or some fictional futuristic sounding relaxing drug would have made the same point and been more "authentic" given the unlikelihood that restrictions on smoking in public will be relaxed in the future ... ESPECIALLY in an environment where breathing requires a facemask.... The military prick could have been made the "authentic" smoker if that was the point of the cigarette. The fact that the 2nd coolest character in the movie was portrayed as a smoker makes it a come-on for pre-teens to become smokers, Just as single cigarette sales and cute pink packaging are designed to lure pre-teens and young teens into a potentially deadly addiction. As for the profanity, given the trend with rap music, by the time the era in which the movie was set rolls around it is quite plausible that profanity will be even less of a big deal than it is now. "

"This thread is about the effects on kids of smoking in PG-13 movies. If you don't like or understand the implications of this type of marketing, I'm sure you can find another forum. "

"The amount of smoking found in AVATAR is very minimal at best. After Grace asked for her cigarette, how many times was smoking portrayed? I can't even remember any. There wasn't enough smoking in AVATAR to have any significant effect on anyone. The way it was portrayed did not make it look cool. To me, when Grace immediately asked for her cigarette, it showed it to be an addictive habit someone needs to overcome a stressful situation. That's definitely a negative portrayal.
What little time was spent on that is not worth all of this fuss being made. I can't believe that anyone was influenced to start smoking from what was portrayed on AVATAR.
The greater messages overpowered any smoking "message" that some are trying to blow way out of proportion.
Now, having said that, I was surprised to see it in the film, but it was so fleeting that I forgot about it right away.
I by the way, am a reformed smoker. I smoked for 16 years and haven't smoked for almost 30 years now."