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Valdamar	A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 9 2010, 5:13 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 9 2010, 5:13 AM EST 4. Assuming light speed communications is the norm, it will take at least another 10 years for an Earth expeditionary force to respond to the hostilities on Pandora. The Na’vi will need to wisely use this time to plan for any potential hostile engagement. The Na’vi will not succeed again if they plan on using bows and arrows again against a well equipped Earth marine force with a goal to take control of this skirmish. Something new will have to be brought into the game for the Na’vi to have any chance in any conflict. This timeframe also means that Jakes and Neytiri’s children will be caught up in any future engagements. 5. We know noting about the politics on Earth. Will RDA send in a private mercenary force to take control of this skirmish without keeping Earth’s Governments informed, or will Earth’s government support RDA in any retaliatory action, (looking for genes of mass destruction perhaps?) or will they get wind of the situation and send in an peace keep force to help save the day? 6. Will RDA stoop low enough and use a chemical like ‘agent orange’ or poison gasses to help regain control of the situation? Or will they try and use brute force and/or traditional divide and conquer tactics? Will the RDA scale up their AVATAR program to develop a fully fledged AVATAR tactical response strike force? I can see that James Cameron is going to have a lot of fun figuring out a plot for any future sequel to AVATAR. When we do venture out into the galaxy, we no doubt will need to have a strategy for managing indigenous cultures like the Na’vi. It is hope that future AVATAR movies will help show the way as to how this should be appropriately managed. Eywa ngahu (Eywa be with you) 2/2 Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
Sorsa	1. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 9 2010, 5:28 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 9 2010, 5:32 AM EST 4. Travelling takes years, but somehow it seems to be possible to communicate faster. I'm referring now to information about shuttles and dragon gunship. There were mentioned that RDA personnels had requested more supplies and materials to build another one but i was denied. 5. Correct, but RDA is working privately and i bet word spreading about RDA's deeds on Pandora would cause storm in Terra. I assume humans are not totally heartless as we have seen. Just some people are. Probably minority, but one is enough when he/she has the authority. 6. I bet RDA won't stop easily. (Cameron have always critiziced somehow megacorporations in his movies). If you would be RDA's greedy headmaster and there would be some natives retaliating and threatenig historys most profitable project, how would you react? I have feeling Cameron have had it all planned at least in some level allready. Now is time to polish and stuff. kllfrivo kariy Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Valdamar	2. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 11 2010, 4:25 AM EST “Correct, but RDA is working privately and i bet word spreading about RDA's deeds on Pandora would cause storm in Terra. I assume humans are not totally heartless as we have seen. Just some people are. Probably minority, but one is enough when he/she has the authority.” Normally I would agree with you, however human history is littered with examples of how so called civilized societies ruthlessly overrun indigenous populations. AVATAR has no doubt drawn on these events to enhance the conflict and emotional component of their story. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zahelu	3. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 11 2010, 5:55 AM EST I'd prefer a plot which will not show the Na'vi meticulously planning and preparing for an invasion 10 years down the road, as they don't look the type to harbour ill feelings and start sharpening their metals or cutting down trees and begin constructing massive arrows and catapults. I think they're cool enough to take things as they come, and fight with their fists if need be. As for RDA, I think at this point in time, they're the biggest corporation on earth, and that they are the ones supplying Earth's raw materials need. Maybe an armed iron-fisted conglomerate might, a big MIGHT, return for another round of fight. Now that's spicy. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sorsa	4. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 11 2010, 1:19 PM EST "“Correct, but RDA is working privately and i bet word spreading about RDA's deeds on Pandora would cause storm in Terra. I assume humans are not totally heartless as we have seen. Just some people are. Probably minority, but one is enough when he/she has the authority.” Normally I would agree with you, however human history is littered with examples of how so called civilized societies ruthlessly overrun indigenous populations. AVATAR has no doubt drawn on these events to enhance the conflict and emotional component of their story. " May be so, but we don't know much about situation at Terra. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ironskillet2	5. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 11 2010, 4:02 PM EST well, you have to think about it in alot of different terms 1. how far is RDA willing to go to get resources, because RDA just cant destroy pandora, it would cause alot of bad press and hurt them in the stock market, which would lower their value as a company. also, RDA can only higher military forces, as we just saw in the movie, as soon as eywa decided to step in and defend herself, the military forces didnt stand a chance. the only way to combat a planet would be to use extremely high, extremely expensive weaponry, something they either wouldnt have access to, or cant afford. and even if they did get access to WMDs, they would probably destroy the unobptanium (spelling that right??) in the process, making the whole campaign useless. if anything, they might attack 1 more time, and if they fail, cut their losses and look for new planets with resources they can use. unfortunately, as history has told us, not everything lasts forever, maybe somewhere down the line the na'vi become conquered, but that is a story i honestly dont want to see. anyways, that metal was the only thing pandora could provide, humans couldnt live on pandora becaue it required oxygen tanks, and im sure if they attempted to mobilize on pandora, it would threaten eywa and again she might defend herself. i guess what im getting at is that james cameron probably came up with a good reason for humans to back off pandora, and his next movie isnt even going to involve them. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zahelu	6. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 12 2010, 4:09 AM EST James did mention that there are several moons revolving around Polyphemus, which Pandora is one of them, and he might just give the rest a visit. Perhaps. Maybe there's no more Na'vi? Another new race? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Valdamar	7. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 14 2010, 9:07 PM EST "May be so, but we don't know much about situation at Terra." What we do know on Terra is that they have spent an insane amount of money on space flight and AVATAR technology. Somehow I don't see that the AVATAR program would have been developed exclusively for use on Pandora. There has to be a good reason for initiating R&D into AVATARS on Terra. On possible story line that could be used to justify the expence of AVATAR technology on Earth is that the avatars are used by each countries leader or leaders. This had been brought about because not long after the Afghanistan war terrorists reverse engineered flying drone bombs, which were then used to effectively assinate the leaders of countries that did not follow their ideaology. The AVATAR program was the only solution for stable government as we know it. In this regard the avatars were used as sacrificial leaders while the real leader/s suvived to govern another day. This possible use of avatars would also bring in a whole new meaning to the term 'puppet politicians'. This type of story line would also bring about an intriging back drop to what is happening on Terra now and possibly in the future. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zahelu	8. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 15 2010, 1:30 AM EST I'm taking nothing from your creative and imaginative post, it's good, and it does at first glance summarised partly the movie 'Surrogates', which featured Bruce Willis. Instead of an urban backdrop, I'd like to immerse myself in (avatar 2) another round of lush canopies, fresh bustling leaves and uninhibited wildlife -- altough the costs of producing these 3D imageries aren't cheap, it's satisfyingly majestic -- if done right! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SoWorthIt	9. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 16 2010, 6:27 PM EST There are a lot of news updates today on Google saying that Cameron has decided to do a second installment featuring the Na'vi and that So-Worth-It Worthington has already signed on to do it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
MGrizzy	10. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 16 2010, 7:32 PM EST some one spoke of jake and neyteri's kids in a previous post. since his biological make up is mixed will their kids be mixed? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Valdamar	11. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 17 2010, 4:21 PM EST "There are a lot of news updates today on Google saying that Cameron has decided to do a second installment featuring the Na'vi and that So-Worth-It Worthington has already signed on to do it." I have seen these too and can hardly wait for the next sequel. In my "A sequal to AVATAR 2/2" and previous AVATAR 1/2 threads I have set the bounds for the possible sequel and added a few speculative ideas as to where the storyline might take us. I also hope that Sam Worthington will be in the sequel. He did a dam fine job in AVATAR. Go Sam... If your a fan of Sam Worthington Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Valdamar	12. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 17 2010, 4:59 PM EST "some one spoke of jake and neyteri's kids in a previous post. since his biological make up is mixed will their kids be mixed?" In my previous thread "A sequel to AVATAR 1/2" I mentioned that Jake would probably inherit vigorous crossbred genes. This may bring certain advantages to him and his offspring in any future sequel. For example, the ability to communicate directly and more clearly with Eywa, and possibly find out more about the history of Pandora through the eyes of Eywa. Nytiri would also become privy to what is going on after love queuing secessions with Jake. Such a power could set the scene for the next adventure of Jake Sully and Nytiri. I have just finished reading the original script (which can now be downloaded off the net). In the concluding scenes a pregnant Nytiri is bow fishing while children play along the shoreline. Though this scene was cut from the movie, it appears that children are destined to become part of a sequel story. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Churchill51	13. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 17 2010, 7:28 PM EST "I have just finished reading the original script (which can now be downloaded off the net). In the concluding scenes a pregnant Nytiri is bow fishing while children play along the shoreline. Though this scene was cut from the movie, it appears that children are destined to become part of a sequel story. " Sweet!! I'll have to finish reading it. I was also wondering what their children would have in terms of advantages or disadvantages because of the fact that he's a hybrid (though obviously the Na'vi is the dominant gene or he'd be a heck of a lot smaller) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Churchill51	14. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 18 2010, 2:23 AM EST From the sounds of it we will get Avatar 2 (title pending) in the summer of 2011. So that's only 1.5 years away. Damnit!!! Ha ha. At least we'll have the dvd to keep us going til then. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Valdamar	15. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 18 2010, 3:05 AM EST "I'm taking nothing from your creative and imaginative post, it's good, and it does at first glance summarised partly the movie 'Surrogates', which featured Bruce Willis. Instead of an urban backdrop, I'd like to immerse myself in (avatar 2) another round of lush canopies, fresh bustling leaves and uninhibited wildlife -- altough the costs of producing these 3D imageries aren't cheap, it's satisfyingly majestic -- if done right!" The use of human avatars by officials in high places could add a supprising plot line to a future sequel. For instance one way that Quaritch could be part of the next sequel would be if it was his avatar who was killed in the movie by Neytiri's arrows, and not the Quaritch himself. In this instance the real Quaritch is in an orbiting geostationary spacestation above Pandora. Now that would be an interesting story. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Valdamar	16. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 18 2010, 3:35 AM EST One interesting conundrum that was posed in AVATAR is that Eywa had chosen Jake for some reason and was prepared to show her hand by committing mega fauna to the battle between the Na’vi and RDA, as requested by Jake. One possible future story line here would be to that Eywa will continue to use Jake as an environmental protection ambassador to help combat the ongoing threat that RDA and other forces on Pandora pose to the balance of life on Pandora. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Na'vidave	17. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 22 2010, 8:26 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 22 2010, 8:27 PM EST Well, since Cameron's been dreaming this up for 15 yrs, I'd bet he has ideas for 2 &3. Jake has knowledge of Earths wepons & tech to shear with the Na'vi for future attacks. Eywa knew he was a golden child, & she probably has other means (like the weather) to protect Pandora. Assuming RDA (aka) "the Company (as in the aliens pics) won't stop till it gets the unobtanim (nobody in the theaters I've been in got that) they'll return. And you have to have tech & battels in Cameron pics. The best in # 2 is to cast Paul (Burk) Riser as the new Co. man. :) :) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Churchill51	18. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 23 2010, 1:39 AM EST " The best in # 2 is to cast Paul (Burk) Riser as the new Co. man. :) :) " That would be funny Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Valdamar	19. RE: A sequal to AVATAR 2/2 Jan 26 2010, 8:00 PM EST I can recall reading that James Cameron deliberately left a few scenes in AVATAR so that this movie would lead to a sequel. One possible sequel linking scene occurs when Jake first rides Toruk (Last Shadow) into the well of the ‘tree of souls’, and is walking towards the homeless and depressed Omaticaya. Did anyone notice that some of the Na’vi in the crowd were darker in colour and possibly smaller in stature than the rest of the Omaticaya? It appears that a different race of Na’vi may become part of a sequel story. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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