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hlehman_corpethics |
Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 18 2010, 6:53 PM EDT
hey people - we all love the story but are we getting the message? I want to make a point about going one step further than just loving Avatar. I want people to love the planet they are on more actively so that we don't end up like the earth in the story. Indigenous issues have come to the forefront with the Avatar story, as well as environmental issues. The two are hand in hand - check out http://www.ienearth.org/tarsands.html and http://avatarsands.org so that you can get informed and get into action.
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AnimE_FeveR |
1. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 18 2010, 7:22 PM EDT
yeah i felt like no one is truly getting the true message in a way which is why this is a great topic! thanks for bringing up a great topic that lets inform people how they can help theyre own planet
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hlehman_corpethics |
2. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 19 2010, 1:34 PM EDT
i am so glad that someone felt the same. it happens a lot with inspiring film - people get excited but then they walk away and live the same life and don't apply what the art was telling them! I have seen avatar several times, 3D and not, big screen and little, and the thing that keeps coming at me is the fact that Earth is DEAD because people were lame enough to let big corporations trash it in their name. Sorry, but that is NOT a future I will willingly put up with!
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AnimE_FeveR |
3. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 20 2010, 9:36 PM EDT
yup u clearly get the message lol. in all seriousness though i think most people who watched it and is on this site doesnt get this idea '-'
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Darkah |
4. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 21 2010, 12:01 AM EDT
You people sure aren't reading all the threads if you think we don't get it. There are discussions about these subjects in other threads that some of us of longer membership have already had. You have to backread to realize that. There are some who have become members lately who are going off on tangents or are creating nonsensical threads which are silly and no one is answering. These are the ones who don't get it.
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victoryblade |
5. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 21 2010, 2:57 AM EDT
Darkah is right, people. I am also a longtime member of this forum, and have been actively involved in the environment. I am a member of a local recycling organization at the university I attend. I also recently became a frontline member for GREENPEACE. I am all for the environment. GO GREEN! And blue also, NAVI BLUE!
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Awesomely_adam |
6. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 21 2010, 10:34 AM EDT
"You people sure aren't reading all the threads if you think we don't get it. There are discussions about these subjects in other threads that some of us of longer membership have already had. You have to backread to realize that. There are some who have become members lately who are going off on tangents or are creating nonsensical threads which are silly and no one is answering. These are the ones who don't get it."Very very true. You can obviously scroll through the pointless threads and see which members have taken something away from this movie. It wouldn't be right to generalize all of us in that category of not taking it seriously. Do you find this valuable? |
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hlehman_corpethics |
7. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 21 2010, 5:47 PM EDT
Actually, I DO think that most everyone gets the message, but I wonder if they take that message and apply it! Like victoryblade and others, I have taken my existing social justice work up another level because the energy from this film has the potential to carry forward - a big monumental wave of difference is what we all need! So, while people certainly "get" the message, are they doing anything different? Are they feeling transformed? Are they pushed into activity? I would LOVE to know what they are doing that is a little more than what they were doing because of the love and message of this film. I for one have become an even more active campaigner against the Tarsands in Alberta - as if you couldn't tell by my stumping for signature to the http://avatarsands.org site and for http://dirtyoilsands.org. Why? Well, because half my family are tsalagi/cree and all of them are from mining country and I know first hand about first nation and mining issues. What are you all doing! Again, would love to hear about it!
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Darkah |
8. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 21 2010, 7:46 PM EDT
Many of us are really taking the message to heart and at least doing individual small things like using less hot water, turning lights out when not in use, recycling more, picking up trash, etc. If we all do these things, it can make a difference. We are also going to other sites and encouraging others to do the same things as well as getting involved in local conservation efforts like cleaning up riverbanks etc. Don't sell people short about this. I have to agree with you though that there are many that won't do a thing. They care more about themselves than making any effort to help save the planet. Do you find this valuable? |
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Kalimaa |
9. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 22 2010, 8:18 PM EDT
Please do not lump everyone into one catergory. Yes, many will go on with their lives, stick their heads in the proverbial sand and not do a thing until all hell breaks loose. But, as has been mentioned previously, many, many people on this site and others have been working for the betterment of this country and the planet for a very long time. Long before Mr. Cameron's AVATAR even came to the big screen. Many people on this site, and others, are indigenous, to this continent or others. Being one of the "elders" on this site, and having viewed AVATAR at least 10 times myself, I have been working on environmental issues, civil rights issues, Native peoples issues, population control, gun control, you name it, for nearly 40 years. My mother was an environmentalist before it had a name--raise your own food, even if you live in a city. Don't waste water. Turn off lights in rooms you're not in. Reuse, reuse, reuse. Don't buy so many clothes, especially the new fads. Walk more. Take the bus. Ride a bike. I have lived this way my entire life. I have urged others to live this way. And now that the planet is on the verge, people are finally waking up. But before you condemn, make sure you know the members of the choir you're preaching to. And every time you get in your car, plan your trips so you drive less. Remember the men that lost their lives in the Gulf and in nearly every foreign war on this planet, all for oil. So you and I can drive around and take care of things quickly. AVATAR was a wakeup call for so many, because so much must be done. If each one of us does something, nd I'm certain we all are, maybe we can save our Mother, and ourselves. Peace.
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AnimE_FeveR |
10. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 22 2010, 8:59 PM EDT
Ok its good people actually doesnt ignore this topic :P and I am just saying that I dont see much talk about the environment on the forums for quite a long time. I think its good to always have threads about the environment because it has the more lasting effect on us then the movie. Anyways its nice to see people actually doenst ignore these threads :D
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Eyaye |
11. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 22 2010, 10:19 PM EDT
There are now scientists who are saying plastic poses a greater danger to the planet than global warming. They found another huge area in the ocean of plastic soup. One of my pet peeves is people buying cases of bottled water, and not even bothering to recycle all that plastic. A plastic bottle takes 800 to 1,000 years to decompose. I carry a metal bottle that I refill. As ma tsmukan Kalimaa has said, I'm preaching to the choir.
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hlehman_corpethics |
12. RE: Indigenous Environmental Network, story telling and reality.
May 23 2010, 1:07 PM EDT
preaching to the choir or not, it is really good to read the practical steps that people take to live their lives without unconscious waste and destruction. And yes, I believe in educating and prompting and promoting everyone to do a little more! That said, how do you think that practical steps and on-the-ground-actions can be fostered in the Avatar communities? I think that they, like any group that centers around a common love, might be able to jump into collective action on improtant issues. All ideas welcome!For my part, when i am not online i am in the dirt farming. and, because farming and the petrochemical industry are closely connected in industrial agriculture, i am an activist on that front. how about you all! Do you find this valuable? |
